Curse

Esan · Sep 19, 2007, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Using a program to help interrupt/spike/whatever is a violation of the user agreement. ArenaNet doesn't need to do a thing except detect such programs and ban the accounts. There have been several generations of interrupt bots that have all been banned.

thezed · Sep 19, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Esan

Using a program to help interrupt/spike/whatever is a violation of the user agreement. ArenaNet doesn't need to do a thing except detect such programs and ban the accounts. There have been several generations of interrupt bots that have all been banned.

And because the OP admited to, and provided video of, using such a bot I wonder if any action will be taken.

Retribution X · Sep 19, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

And exactly why did you post this? Macro's are against the EULA, which you agreed too...

So why the hell are you asking ANet to change something about guildwars so that you can break their EULA easier?

WarKaster · Sep 19, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

And exactly why did you post this? Macro's are against the EULA, which you agreed too...

So why the hell are you asking ANet to change something about guildwars so that you can break their EULA easier?

I was wondering the same exact thing.

lucifer_uk · Sep 19, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by thezed

And because the OP admited to, and provided video of, using such a bot I wonder if any action will be taken.

Their name isn't visible on the video so there not much to go on.

Esan · Sep 19, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

However, Mr. Yang was very unwise to host the movie on his own student account in an unprotected directory. I would recommend closing the directory by adding a trivial index.html, and/or rehosting that video on Youtube.

Bale_Shadowscar · Sep 19, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

he uses teh macros!! ban hims!!!

*ahem* Well, to the OP, how would you go about fixing this problem? surely if ANet changes the colour from Black to red, you can just change your macro accordingly?

lucifer_uk · Sep 19, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

That link needs deleted ASAP.
His student directory has the macro in it.

zwei2stein · Sep 19, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

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Originally Posted by Esan

However, Mr. Yang was very unwise to host the movie on his own student account in an unprotected directory. I would recommend closing the directory by adding a trivial index.html, and/or rehosting that video on Youtube.

You miss point.

Point is that you get curious, download "interrupt.exe" and then kiss your account goodbye.

Esan · Sep 19, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

interrupt.exe is just interrupt.ahk "compiled" by AutoHotKey.

Chthon · Sep 19, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

Even if Anet changes the visual style, Texmod can (can it? I'm not too familiar with the program) change them back to what works best for the script.

Bale Shadowscar answers your question.

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Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

*ahem* Well, to the OP, how would you go about fixing this problem? surely if ANet changes the colour from Black to red, you can just change your macro accordingly?

No amount of complicated gradient tweaking is going to make this sort of macro impossible... or even significantly more difficult to write. Random variations in the activation bar display generated on-the-fly would make it harder, but it would not become impractical up until the point where the activation bar became quite hard for humans to interpret as well. (Btw: random variantions generated on-the-fly would also make that UI component un-moddable via texmod.)

Serverside detection remains the best approach to this sort of thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

However, Mr. Yang was very unwise to host the movie on his own student account in an unprotected directory. I would recommend closing the directory by adding a trivial index.html, and/or rehosting that video on Youtube.

Mr. Yang apparently interned at Microsoft. Hence the focus on security.

However, given the other contents of the directory in question, I'm reporting the post to get the link removed promptly.

thezed · Sep 19, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44

lol, I didnt even notice that the macro was hosted there as well. This guy is just asking for the "ban hammer" isn't he.

He even has a file named GWmacro.zip!!

RPGmaniac · Sep 19, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Am I the only person who read this as "I exploited an obvious flaw. If you don't want more people to exploit it too, please change it"?

Nebuchadnezzer · Sep 19, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

No you arent the only one. Most people just saw macro and went BOTTER BOTTER BAN BAN BAN QQ

DarkNecrid · Sep 19, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Personally I think Anet should hire this guy to help them make it less easy to macro it up.

Phaern Majes · Sep 19, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Chthon

This comment is, frankly, idiotic. Those macros all work WITHOUT mods.

Yes they do, but by allowing modding, even if Anet changes things so it doesn't work normally. One could then still mod to make it work. Anet allowing user-end mods effectively stops them from preventing this. SO while these macros work without mods there is nothing Anet can do to stop it, because people would just have to make a mod to get it to work again. So while his comment may have left all that out I think it is yours that may be, frankly, slightly more idiotic.

As for your other comments, it would only be a bit of work to make your macros conditional. For instance have it check your health before even looking for people to infuse (or look for people to infuse but check your health before doing it). Same with interrupts, you could compile a list of skills that you deem important to interrupt and just have the macro check the skill being used against that list before taking action. It might slow your macro down a tad, but no human can reliably interrupt 1/4 cast (in most cases) anyways so no big loss there. If people take the time to make the macros you can assume they'd take the time to make them effective.

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

anet invited this upon themselves when they allowed modding, and it's a small logical step to move towards macros which read casting times to give an advantage in pvp

I'd say since Anet, and Gaile, have allowed modding, they've given tacit approval to things like this, so don't entirely blame the modders.......

I'd point out that Gaile is merely PR, she doesn't make the rules. She only relays them to us when they need clarified. I believe the phrase is "Don't shoot the messenger." I'm not for or against modding so I don't care either way, just don't blame/give credit where it isn't due.

Malice Black · Sep 19, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Macros are against the EULA.

Yes, I deleted the link as well. Don't repost it.

Closed.